Comments on: Photographers, Lawyers & Campaigners Rally for Change http://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/ Run by Photographers, for Photographers Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:26:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: David Hoffmanhttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-119 David Hoffman Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:27:28 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-119 Re-reading my post from last Wednesday I see that I was wrong to include that Goebbels quote.Those who know me will know how strongly I feel that uncomfortable facts must be dealt with openly if we are ever to make progress but the use of that quote was unnecessary and offensive. I'd like to apologise and withdraw it, my passion overtook my discretion. Re-reading my post from last Wednesday I see that I was wrong to include that Goebbels quote.

Those who know me will know how strongly I feel that uncomfortable facts must be dealt with openly if we are ever to make progress but the use of that quote was unnecessary and offensive. I’d like to apologise and withdraw it, my passion overtook my discretion.

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By: David Hoffmanhttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-117 David Hoffman Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:27:45 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-117 What time was Rude's pic shot? What time was Rude’s pic shot?

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By: Philip Wolmuthhttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-116 Philip Wolmuth Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:36:34 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-116 I did count "over 100" - I think about 115 - but it did not include the panel, and it was near the beginning of the rally, not half way through. I saw more people arrive later, though not in large numbers. I would guess a total of 130 or so, excluding the panel, is a fair estimate. I did count “over 100″ – I think about 115 – but it did not include the panel, and it was near the beginning of the rally, not half way through. I saw more people arrive later, though not in large numbers. I would guess a total of 130 or so, excluding the panel, is a fair estimate.

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By: David Hoffmanhttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-114 David Hoffman Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:50:51 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-114 If we are to make progress and be taken seriously by others we need to be honest. Fantasy may be comforting but it'll destroy our credibility and lead us down false paths.The report on the meeting claims "200 people filled the Large Meeting House of Friends Meeting House in Euston". I counted 88 + panel at the start. Committee member Phil Wolmuth made it "over 100" including panel half way through. Rude Cech's picture above shows (it's low res and so hard to be precise) about 82. There would be a handful more out of frame. The hall holds just over 1,000 people so "filled" would be better written as "left about 90% empty".If we can't deal with the truth we can't deal with anything.David Hoffman If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. Joseph Goebbels - not a model I feel that many of us would wish to follow. If we are to make progress and be taken seriously by others we need to be honest. Fantasy may be comforting but it’ll destroy our credibility and lead us down false paths.

The report on the meeting claims “200 people filled the Large Meeting House of Friends Meeting House in Euston”. I counted 88 + panel at the start. Committee member Phil Wolmuth made it “over 100″ including panel half way through. Rude Cech’s picture above shows (it’s low res and so hard to be precise) about 82. There would be a handful more out of frame. The hall holds just over 1,000 people so “filled” would be better written as “left about 90% empty”.

If we can’t deal with the truth we can’t deal with anything.

David Hoffman

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
Joseph Goebbels – not a model I feel that many of us would wish to follow.

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By: Hostile Reconnaissance 13th April 2010 | empire domestiquehttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-93 Hostile Reconnaissance 13th April 2010 | empire domestique Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:21:44 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-93 [...] Full length audio from the rally, courtesy of Andrew Stuart, is available now to listen online or download. Follow this link to Photographers, Lawyers & Campaigners Rally for Change [...] [...] Full length audio from the rally, courtesy of Andrew Stuart, is available now to listen online or download. Follow this link to Photographers, Lawyers & Campaigners Rally for Change [...]

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By: Peter Marshallhttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Peter Marshall Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:22:51 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-91 "Yesterday I went to a public meeting organised by the London Photographer’s Branch of the NUJ about the systematic harassment of journalists, particularly photographers, by the police..."Continues with something about the evening and my reflections on it http://re-photo.co.uk/?p=971 “Yesterday I went to a public meeting organised by the London Photographer’s Branch of the NUJ about the systematic harassment of journalists, particularly photographers, by the police…”

Continues with something about the evening and my reflections on it
http://re-photo.co.uk/?p=971

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By: >Re: PHOTO » Blog Archive » Hostile Reconnaissancehttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-90 >Re: PHOTO » Blog Archive » Hostile Reconnaissance Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:19:49 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-90 [...] can read more about the rally on the London Photographers’ Branch web site, where you can download a full audio file of the evening. But the highlight came at the [...] [...] can read more about the rally on the London Photographers’ Branch web site, where you can download a full audio file of the evening. But the highlight came at the [...]

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By: Marc Vallée » Blog Archive » Comment is free: “Speaking up for press freedom”http://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Marc Vallée » Blog Archive » Comment is free: “Speaking up for press freedom” Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:31:05 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-88 [...] is my Comment is free on last nights Hostile Reconnaissance – Terror Laws, Civil Liberties and Press Freedom rally organised by the London Photographers’ Branch of the National Union of [...] [...] is my Comment is free on last nights Hostile Reconnaissance – Terror Laws, Civil Liberties and Press Freedom rally organised by the London Photographers’ Branch of the National Union of [...]

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By: Franc Davidhttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Franc David Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:36:10 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-87 Fab evening. I've sent the link fo this page to colleagues at college. Hopefully they'll think seriously about the implications of the Civil Liberties and Press Frreedom issues raised in our talks at the Hostile Reconnaisance rally. When's the next one, then ? Fab evening. I’ve sent the link fo this page to colleagues at college. Hopefully they’ll think seriously about the implications of the Civil Liberties and Press Frreedom issues raised in our talks at the Hostile Reconnaisance rally.
When’s the next one, then ?

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By: garyhttp://londonphotographers.org/2010/04/photographers-lawyers-campaigners-rally-for-change/comment-page-1/#comment-86 gary Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:40:10 +0000 http://londonphotographers.org/?p=368#comment-86 Many thanks for the audio Andrew. It is much appreciated. Many thanks for the audio Andrew. It is much appreciated.

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